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April 02, 2005

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MBH

Hi,
I really appreciate this writing. I had just read an article on Slate, "In Theocracy They Trust" which I found extremely depressing. At least I'm not alone in my disgust for those the media refers to as Christians. Personally I have decided that I am a Follower of Jesus, as the term Christian is tainted. Besides the religious right doesn't seem to find much Biblical basis from the teachings of Jesus, they seem to prefer the Old Testament and Paul.
Thanks again for a thought provoking article.
MBH

Nige B.

I haven't been a Christian in any sense for decades. Partly that's because I haven't been able to reconcile what most Christian "authorities" seem to say with what my reason tells me of the world (or, actually, with my plain old common sense). Partly it's also because I'm queer, and queer and Christianity just never seem to mix (from either point of view). However, just before his consecration as Bishop, I sent Gene Robinson a good wishes email. I was hugely surprised to get a reply. I was even more surprised at the wisdom of what he wrote in just a couple of sentences. Since then I've been exploring why someone as wise as Bishop Robinson can be a Christian. Now I've come across this web site and have breathed a great sigh of relief, since I've been reading right-wing evangelical Bible commentaries recently which had been confirming that Christianity really wasn't for me... Your post has further pulled me back from that. I may not be ready for a long while yet to commit to Christianity, but at least I know there's somewhere for me when I do.

Roy Dhanda

What does TCPC stand for? Could you please enlighten

Adam

The decline of Christianity is speeding up and the number of people willing to nominally follow this faith is falling fast! With in the next 100-150 years Christianity will have lost all its political power and a vast majority of its cultural power as well. Church buildings will be torn down or converted into better uses. Most western peoples will scoff at the very idea of “One God” and find only scorn for the Bible/Torah/Koran. It may well take a full200- 300 years but Judeo-Christianity will have all but died and then one day it will die. The death of the One God may take longer then most would like but we may rest assured that he is in fact dying.
Adam

RAMAN

THESE NONSENCE CHURCHES ARE CREATING HAVOC IN INDIA, SURPRISINGLY THESE ARE GETTING ENOUGH LOT (NO FOOD AND MONEY, SO EASY TO CONVERT), CREATING NONSENCE COMMUNAL UNSTABILITY!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE HELPOUT.

"quantumbeer"

I would love for Christianity to die off, but not take any civilization down with it.

Virtual Mystik

A new age is dawning, 2000 years and no Jesus, it is becoming apparent he was an apocalyptic thinker, wise but self absorbed, Jerusalem is not the center of the earth, the earth is not the center of the universe, and Heaven is not up. 'Heaven lies within you' he said before coming back from the dead and shooting off into space:) Writing had been invented, why would only four people report such an incredible event? He is supposed to have been seen by thousands of people. And those four incredibly seem to be his disciples, who were understandably angry for the killing of a good man of God.

Will Kohli

Think again, Jesus words, "I SAY ONTO THEE, THE STARS WILL FALL TO THE GROUND" & "ALL OF THOSE ALIVE WILL LIVE TO SEE ME COMING DOWN FROM THE CLOUDS ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD". How many more Millenia will pass, before the TRUTH dawns! JESUS WAS LYING!I might talk that way too, if I was about to be nailed, you might too.

Will Kohli

"STARS WILL FALL TO THE GROUND" ! er, those stars are galaxies, each with 300 Million Suns in each. And they will fall to the ground on this miniscule planet! "HEAVEN AND EARTH WILL PASS AWAY, BUT MY WORDS WILL NOT PASS AWAY". er, the only thing that passed away was Jesus. No Romans saw him come back, No jews saw him come back, AND 7 OF HIS OWN DISCIPLES DID NOT EVEN CARE TO WRITE ABOUT IT. That just leaves Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. And the joke they played in writing before they died. Jesus had'nt returned as he promised! Ultimately by 20,000 CE TRUTH will inevitably have to rule.

Lee Picton

Count me as one of the fallen away. My own father was an Episcopalian priest who acknowledged his atheism at the end of his life. I was unencumbered by irrational belief since the age of seven, when I was pretty sure it was all bullshit, but as it was religion that put food on my table, I knew enough to keep my mouth shut. My husband, a nominally churched individual, admitted he didn't believe either, and our child was never indoctrinated. So that's three fewer in the clutches of insanity.

Windstorm

I don't direspect Christians or anything but I can't stand the fact that they teach a "no tolerance" of other belief systems. That ain't fair at all how they judge people. Good ridance, sheesh!

Robert

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Jason

Reading this gives me hope. While I doubt I will get to see Christianity completely marginalized during my lifetime, I really wish I could. There are many decent Christians, and the few who have actually read the whole bible, I commend, as most only turn to the page their pastor/priest tells them to, on Sundays, yet dare to call themselves "Christians." As a former devout Christian, turned angry, rebellious Satanist, turned nonbeliever tired of religious propaganda, I have a deep-seated hatred for any monotheistic belief system, as monotheism automatically implies "my god is right, and your god is wrong; end of discussion". We need to follow in the footsteps of Nietzsche and move "Beyond Good and Evil".

Asutosh

Will you please read this article?

http://net-burst.net/hot/decline.htm

Curtis Wayne

Although, I understand what you are saying about Christianity and those calling themselves Christian. I have worked in or around a Church for the past 21 years. And I see exactly what you are saying about Christians within the Church itself. There are many in the Church that don't take it seriously, have a minimal understanding of the Bible, and jst attend because they always have. There are others that try hard to be a Christian, but are not sure what they are looking for. Then there are those that truly love God and are devoted to Him. My only wish that each of you could spend time with this group. You won't find them on TV. There not the ones quoted in the media. You never hear from this group until you are blessed enough to have crossed their paths. I could tell you stories of people I have met that would blow you away. It still blows me away. There is something about this Jesus that is not being reported today. And frankly, I don't think I want it reported through the media. How much is it worth to you to find out if this is true?

suren

truth is jesus didnt die on the cross but survived the crucifiction (the resurrection was actually him coming back alive ...he achieved this through yogic techniques he had learnt in India/Tibet). Yes he was a true spiritual master who had his education in the eastern traditions and tried to imbibe the best of these to his folks. He created successors and made the perfect exit strategy through the crucifiction to return to the east for a peaceful family life in Kashmir till his death at a very old age. Most people who have been initiated into very deep spiritual traditions do not have any desire to suffer for others sins or sacrifice themselves because they would understand the philosophy of the human mind and so for him he did this probably because the spiritual life was his ideal and remaining in Israel would not permit that. Unfortunately the movement he started got lost in the old Judaic dogma...I think the second coming was probably his promise to return at some point but didnt materialize. And then of course you had the Roman Empire meddling with christianity for the purpose of their imperialistic agenda.

Bob Garbett


I came to this 'site' thinking it was 'progressive' I’m more than a little disappointed to find that this same site is home to atheists, god haters, Christ rejecter’s and those who seem to despise all things Christian. If this is a 'progressive' website, I'm a little concerned to see where 'liberals' hang out. I’m no fundamentalist, nor conservative, but neither can I or do I reject the whole 'box and dice’. I’m new to this site, but also a little confused, is this pseudo progressive or agnostic/atheist. This is an honest question from someone looking for a place where some semblance of faith can still be retained.


stephen d

Bob, I think we all basically believe in the same thing. We have many different points of view due to our own conditioning, which creates prejudice. If u r blessed with faith, don't feel threatened by other points of view. Christians have caused enormous destruction in the world, so it's understandable that some would feel it would be better to let it go. Despite this, there r some really beautiful things in Christianity.

Eduardo Sanchez

MALDITAS DROGAS!!!!

mijmog

read the atrocities in the old testament........you will not want to spend eternity with a God like that !
jesus hasnt come back yet - its been a long time. other pagan figures also had a virgin birth, death for 3 days, resurrection, & were called sons of God or gods.
the churches are full of hypocrites, interested in money only.
i experimented with christianity for 5 years, but now i quit.

will

some christians can be nice, but that's their individual spirit - not that of a religion that changes them.
civilisation can exist without christianity - look at the highly disciplined societies of japan or korea - not christian nations - but lower crime than many christian nations.
as a christian, i was nice in order to keep out of hell and get into heaven, but now as an atheist i am nice because i care for other people - i'm sure jesus christ will like me better now - even if the judgemental christians i face dont.

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