The cover story in The New York Times Magazine for March 27, 2005, featured an Assembly of God megachurch in Surprise, Arizona, about 45 minutes northwest of downtown Phoenix. The pastor, Lee McFarland, founded Radiant Church in 1996, and now weekend attendance has now reached 5,000 people. Impressive? Yes, until you stop to think what the impact of this kind of Christianity has been on the Christian enterprise as a whole. Many people have failed to realize that the success of fundamentalism in this country has been gained at a terrible price, the loss of respect for Christianity among people who want to think for themselves.
The story of Surprise, Arizona, is a good example of what has been happening around the country. The author of the Times story, Jonathan Mahler, notes that Surprise, a town of 80,000 people, has 27 other churches, but he dismisses them with the observation that "none of them are growing at anything that approaches the pace of Radiant." He does not supply statistics – maybe they are not available – but we can make some guesses based on national averages. Half of the churches in the United States have fewer than 100 members, and only 10% have more than 400 members, which puts them in the class of "large churches". Let us give those 27 churches the benefit of the doubt and assume that on the average they are large churches with a membership of 500, for a total of 13,500. If you add in Radiant’s 5,000 members, you will see that 18,500 church members are the most you are likely to find in Surprise. On the basis of my informed guesses, at least 73% of the Surprise citizens have no church connection at all.
Would other churches in town have better luck if Radiant were not giving Christianity a reputation for being anti-intellectual, anti-scientific, anti-gay, and anti-choice in medical decisions such as the end of life and the termination of pregnancy? No one can say for sure, but the statistics collected by the National Council of Churches and various polling agencies suggest that while groups such as the Assemblies of God and the Southern Baptists grew rapidly in the latter half of the 20th century, church membership as a whole declined. The so-called main line churches suffered serious losses, but the most significant trend may have been among those who claim no religious affiliation. In 1952, only 2% of the people polled claimed no connection with organized religion. By 1990, the figure had climbed to 10%. According to a survey conducted by the City University of New York, by 2001, 19% of the people in this county did not identify themselves with any particular religion. According to this survey, during the same period, 1990 to 2001, the percentage of Americans identifying themselves as Christians declined from 86% to 77%.
From my college course in logic, I am aware of the weakness in any argument based on post hoc ergo propter hoc, after this therefore because of this, so I will admit that I cannot prove the decline in American Christianity as a whole is entirely the result of fundamentalism’s success in winning converts. I do think, however, that in the minds of most people who read newspapers and magazines the word "Christian" has become identified with extreme conservatism. Only a generation ago, according to most dictionaries, you could call someone a Christian and mean a decent, respectable human being. Today, if you identify someone as a Christian, most of the people I know will assume that you mean a narrow-minded, self-righteous bigot.
The negative connotation has made considering Christianity as an option unlikely for many well-informed people. To get their attention, churches reaching out to them can never use the word "Christian" without a qualifying adjective, such as progressive. Even when we do, we have a hard time convincing the skeptical that we are different from the politically influential right-wing Christians they read about in the news. Is it any wonder that a shrinking number of people in America are willing to call themselves Christians?
Hi,
I really appreciate this writing. I had just read an article on Slate, "In Theocracy They Trust" which I found extremely depressing. At least I'm not alone in my disgust for those the media refers to as Christians. Personally I have decided that I am a Follower of Jesus, as the term Christian is tainted. Besides the religious right doesn't seem to find much Biblical basis from the teachings of Jesus, they seem to prefer the Old Testament and Paul.
Thanks again for a thought provoking article.
MBH
Posted by: MBH | April 11, 2005 at 06:29 AM
I haven't been a Christian in any sense for decades. Partly that's because I haven't been able to reconcile what most Christian "authorities" seem to say with what my reason tells me of the world (or, actually, with my plain old common sense). Partly it's also because I'm queer, and queer and Christianity just never seem to mix (from either point of view). However, just before his consecration as Bishop, I sent Gene Robinson a good wishes email. I was hugely surprised to get a reply. I was even more surprised at the wisdom of what he wrote in just a couple of sentences. Since then I've been exploring why someone as wise as Bishop Robinson can be a Christian. Now I've come across this web site and have breathed a great sigh of relief, since I've been reading right-wing evangelical Bible commentaries recently which had been confirming that Christianity really wasn't for me... Your post has further pulled me back from that. I may not be ready for a long while yet to commit to Christianity, but at least I know there's somewhere for me when I do.
Posted by: Nige B. | May 19, 2005 at 03:43 AM
What does TCPC stand for? Could you please enlighten
Posted by: Roy Dhanda | May 19, 2005 at 02:13 PM
The decline of Christianity is speeding up and the number of people willing to nominally follow this faith is falling fast! With in the next 100-150 years Christianity will have lost all its political power and a vast majority of its cultural power as well. Church buildings will be torn down or converted into better uses. Most western peoples will scoff at the very idea of “One God” and find only scorn for the Bible/Torah/Koran. It may well take a full200- 300 years but Judeo-Christianity will have all but died and then one day it will die. The death of the One God may take longer then most would like but we may rest assured that he is in fact dying.
Adam
Posted by: Adam | April 12, 2007 at 06:10 PM
THESE NONSENCE CHURCHES ARE CREATING HAVOC IN INDIA, SURPRISINGLY THESE ARE GETTING ENOUGH LOT (NO FOOD AND MONEY, SO EASY TO CONVERT), CREATING NONSENCE COMMUNAL UNSTABILITY!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE HELPOUT.
Posted by: RAMAN | April 20, 2007 at 01:18 PM
I would love for Christianity to die off, but not take any civilization down with it.
Posted by: "quantumbeer" | October 21, 2007 at 05:38 AM
A new age is dawning, 2000 years and no Jesus, it is becoming apparent he was an apocalyptic thinker, wise but self absorbed, Jerusalem is not the center of the earth, the earth is not the center of the universe, and Heaven is not up. 'Heaven lies within you' he said before coming back from the dead and shooting off into space:) Writing had been invented, why would only four people report such an incredible event? He is supposed to have been seen by thousands of people. And those four incredibly seem to be his disciples, who were understandably angry for the killing of a good man of God.
Posted by: Virtual Mystik | December 27, 2007 at 07:32 AM
Think again, Jesus words, "I SAY ONTO THEE, THE STARS WILL FALL TO THE GROUND" & "ALL OF THOSE ALIVE WILL LIVE TO SEE ME COMING DOWN FROM THE CLOUDS ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD". How many more Millenia will pass, before the TRUTH dawns! JESUS WAS LYING!I might talk that way too, if I was about to be nailed, you might too.
Posted by: Will Kohli | February 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM
"STARS WILL FALL TO THE GROUND" ! er, those stars are galaxies, each with 300 Million Suns in each. And they will fall to the ground on this miniscule planet! "HEAVEN AND EARTH WILL PASS AWAY, BUT MY WORDS WILL NOT PASS AWAY". er, the only thing that passed away was Jesus. No Romans saw him come back, No jews saw him come back, AND 7 OF HIS OWN DISCIPLES DID NOT EVEN CARE TO WRITE ABOUT IT. That just leaves Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. And the joke they played in writing before they died. Jesus had'nt returned as he promised! Ultimately by 20,000 CE TRUTH will inevitably have to rule.
Posted by: Will Kohli | February 15, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Count me as one of the fallen away. My own father was an Episcopalian priest who acknowledged his atheism at the end of his life. I was unencumbered by irrational belief since the age of seven, when I was pretty sure it was all bullshit, but as it was religion that put food on my table, I knew enough to keep my mouth shut. My husband, a nominally churched individual, admitted he didn't believe either, and our child was never indoctrinated. So that's three fewer in the clutches of insanity.
Posted by: Lee Picton | May 20, 2008 at 06:39 AM
I don't direspect Christians or anything but I can't stand the fact that they teach a "no tolerance" of other belief systems. That ain't fair at all how they judge people. Good ridance, sheesh!
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Posted by: Robert | August 02, 2008 at 09:41 PM
Reading this gives me hope. While I doubt I will get to see Christianity completely marginalized during my lifetime, I really wish I could. There are many decent Christians, and the few who have actually read the whole bible, I commend, as most only turn to the page their pastor/priest tells them to, on Sundays, yet dare to call themselves "Christians." As a former devout Christian, turned angry, rebellious Satanist, turned nonbeliever tired of religious propaganda, I have a deep-seated hatred for any monotheistic belief system, as monotheism automatically implies "my god is right, and your god is wrong; end of discussion". We need to follow in the footsteps of Nietzsche and move "Beyond Good and Evil".
Posted by: Jason | September 06, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Will you please read this article?
http://net-burst.net/hot/decline.htm
Posted by: Asutosh | March 11, 2009 at 09:02 PM
Although, I understand what you are saying about Christianity and those calling themselves Christian. I have worked in or around a Church for the past 21 years. And I see exactly what you are saying about Christians within the Church itself. There are many in the Church that don't take it seriously, have a minimal understanding of the Bible, and jst attend because they always have. There are others that try hard to be a Christian, but are not sure what they are looking for. Then there are those that truly love God and are devoted to Him. My only wish that each of you could spend time with this group. You won't find them on TV. There not the ones quoted in the media. You never hear from this group until you are blessed enough to have crossed their paths. I could tell you stories of people I have met that would blow you away. It still blows me away. There is something about this Jesus that is not being reported today. And frankly, I don't think I want it reported through the media. How much is it worth to you to find out if this is true?
Posted by: Curtis Wayne | March 12, 2009 at 09:07 AM
truth is jesus didnt die on the cross but survived the crucifiction (the resurrection was actually him coming back alive ...he achieved this through yogic techniques he had learnt in India/Tibet). Yes he was a true spiritual master who had his education in the eastern traditions and tried to imbibe the best of these to his folks. He created successors and made the perfect exit strategy through the crucifiction to return to the east for a peaceful family life in Kashmir till his death at a very old age. Most people who have been initiated into very deep spiritual traditions do not have any desire to suffer for others sins or sacrifice themselves because they would understand the philosophy of the human mind and so for him he did this probably because the spiritual life was his ideal and remaining in Israel would not permit that. Unfortunately the movement he started got lost in the old Judaic dogma...I think the second coming was probably his promise to return at some point but didnt materialize. And then of course you had the Roman Empire meddling with christianity for the purpose of their imperialistic agenda.
Posted by: suren | March 30, 2009 at 07:45 PM
I came to this 'site' thinking it was 'progressive' I’m more than a little disappointed to find that this same site is home to atheists, god haters, Christ rejecter’s and those who seem to despise all things Christian. If this is a 'progressive' website, I'm a little concerned to see where 'liberals' hang out. I’m no fundamentalist, nor conservative, but neither can I or do I reject the whole 'box and dice’. I’m new to this site, but also a little confused, is this pseudo progressive or agnostic/atheist. This is an honest question from someone looking for a place where some semblance of faith can still be retained.
Posted by: Bob Garbett | October 17, 2009 at 04:41 AM
Bob, I think we all basically believe in the same thing. We have many different points of view due to our own conditioning, which creates prejudice. If u r blessed with faith, don't feel threatened by other points of view. Christians have caused enormous destruction in the world, so it's understandable that some would feel it would be better to let it go. Despite this, there r some really beautiful things in Christianity.
Posted by: stephen d | October 28, 2009 at 07:13 PM
MALDITAS DROGAS!!!!
Posted by: Eduardo Sanchez | November 07, 2009 at 06:19 PM
read the atrocities in the old testament........you will not want to spend eternity with a God like that !
jesus hasnt come back yet - its been a long time. other pagan figures also had a virgin birth, death for 3 days, resurrection, & were called sons of God or gods.
the churches are full of hypocrites, interested in money only.
i experimented with christianity for 5 years, but now i quit.
Posted by: mijmog | November 13, 2009 at 04:50 PM
some christians can be nice, but that's their individual spirit - not that of a religion that changes them.
civilisation can exist without christianity - look at the highly disciplined societies of japan or korea - not christian nations - but lower crime than many christian nations.
as a christian, i was nice in order to keep out of hell and get into heaven, but now as an atheist i am nice because i care for other people - i'm sure jesus christ will like me better now - even if the judgemental christians i face dont.
Posted by: will | November 13, 2009 at 04:55 PM