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April 13, 2005

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BeachOfEden

I agree. If this was the Catholics idea of a Progressive minded Pope..than I'd hate to see their idea of rigid one. Just image what is will be like when Billy graham passes a way.;/

Susan E. Siens

I was really pleased to read this analysis of John Paul II's legacy. He was a man of power and authority, and for me those attributes are inimical to spirituality. Humility and marginalization are the hallmarks of a spiritual leader for me, which is why I love the teachings of Jesus Christ, or, preferably, Jeshua bar Joseph. But I have come in my lifetime to realize most people are attracted to the strong man, and the strong man does not always carry a gun.

F.M. Elias

When Ronald Reagan passed on, I was horrified by the outpouring of 'what a great guy' and 'what a fine example of patriotism' and 'how he stood fine and tall and made us proud to be Americans.'....
To quote the great oral historian Studs Terkel, we here in America are striken with a great communal Alzheimer's disease. We have forgotten that this man made ketchup a vegetable for our children; those older in our community conveniently ignored that this 'fine actor, once president of the Screen Actors' Guild' ratted out many of his fellow craftspeople during the dark days of the Red Scare and McCarthyism. His malaprop's and faux pas in public with leaders from around the world are too numerous to mention. His 'Star Wars' national defense program was more a joke than a mystery (thank heavens it died); his dismantling of decades of social reform is still reverberating in the lives of people of color, of disabled people, of economically challenged people of women.

And yet, as a former Pres, he was afforded more accolades and false kudo's than I-am-not-sure-what.

Jim, THANK YOU for the Truth (deliberately capitalized) on JP II. Curious how JPI didn't last that long. Does anyone even REMEMBER that there WAS a JP I -an interesting, kind, potentially liberal pope?

I was raised in a very deep Catholic tradition, complete w/12 years of very Catholic education. The very wonderful teachers I had -- Catholic nuns, Christian brothers and priests - made one fatal mistake. They taught me to think and to question. I left the Catholic church in college. I have questioned, challenged, and been completely disgusted with the non answers given by figures of authority. It's not the people - it's the institutions and those who uphold it, refuse to change it - like JP II. Despite the numerous opportunties, despite the obvious openings to make a big difference - the Pope and the cardinals steep themselves in tradition and not reality.
There are plenty of bright and beautiful lights in the persons of nuns, laity, individual priests, within the institution, who personally challenge, question and are completely disgusted with the non answers they get. They have even told me that 'the Pope needs to be re-educated' (JP II).

Now that he's entombed....I guess that won't happen in this incarnation.

Your candid and honest truth really gave me a sense of the reality community that exists (albeit hard to find at times) alongside the pseudo 'faith community' of believers of the Emperor's New Clothes, both religious and secular.

Keep the truth coming.

F. M. Elias

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