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June 06, 2005

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Growing Pains

I think you've missed the point here. The "liberal Christians" have become so diluted with warm fuzzies and the "conservative Christians" have become so sidetracked with meaningless issues that the "Church" no longer knows what it belives in! When you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything. THAT'S what happened in Nazi Germany. It is a convicting lesson for both "sides" of the Christian church. It should make us all "angry." The Church must wake up and realize (hopefully sooner than later) that we have some work to do if we want to change the world in a positive way!

Dale

Growing Pains wrote this: "When you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything. THAT'S what happened in Nazi Germany."

Maybe you missed the point as well. There was, and still is, in Germany, a highly educated theological tradition. They BELIEVE deeply. They had the "values" and they had their volkskirche.

Similarly, the conclusion drawn by Jim:
"Germany was a fairly homogeneous society in 1933. America in 2005 is incredibly diverse. Germany had had only a brief experience of democracy when Hitler rose to power. We have been governing ourselves for over two centuries. The Christianists are dangerous, and people of faith must expose and oppose them, but I don't think that comparing them to the exuberant Christians of Nazi Germany will help."

Also misses the point, in fact, almost gives a demonstration of how easy it was for the German intelligensia to justify their particpation and support of the Nazi regime; they had all their sphisticated reasons how what they were doing was "best in the long run". Making all these fine sociological comparisons and then stipulating how "we're not susceptible to that anymore" only increases the chances that we ARE indeed. I find that the breadth of support for Bush and thus the Iraq debacle is a minurature version of the same kind of national/cultural blindness.

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